![]() ![]() What I would say is what we want to practice and what we want to evangelize is empowering every manager and every individual to start coming up with norms that work for that team, given the context of what that team is trying to get done.įor example, if I manage a team of five people, I better know there are people in my team with young children who have not been vaccinated? Because the considerations of those parents will be different. But in that context, Adi, to your point, we are taking what I would call a much more organic approach right now. And then we can understand what are even the broad contours of productivity flexibility. These norms have to settle so that then we can have real causal relations that settle. Because I don’t think we have settled on the new norms. So the real thing I would say is right now, it’s probably best not to be overly dogmatic. Fifty-odd percent also want to stay at home so that they can have focus time. Interestingly enough, if you look at the other sort of confounding piece of data: 50-odd percent of the people say they want to come into work so that they can have focus time. At the same time, 70% also want that human connection so that they can collaborate. For example, when we see all of the data, the reality is close to 70% of the people say they want flexibility. SATYA NADELLA: Yeah, I think first of all, I think we should sort of perhaps just get grounded on what are we seeing in the expectations. So how do you how do you balance these imperatives? ![]() And that maybe means people need to be together, a little less flexibility on that. But then there are sort of larger corporate company concerns about, well we want people to be together. ![]() Let individuals, let teams decide how they want to work together, when, and in what fashion. Because on the one hand, flexibility sounds great. So these two, hybrid work and the great reshuffle, are the two major trends that are fundamentally structurally changing I think everything we do.ĪDI IGNATIUS: Let me get a sense of how you would define flexibility. They really want to recontract, in some sense, the real meaning of work and sort of asking themselves the question of which company do they want to work for and what job function or profession they want to pursue. Not only are people talking about when, where, and how they work, but also why they work. One is the trend around hybrid work, which is a result of the changed expectations of everyone around the flexibility that they want to exercise in when, where, and how they work.Īnd then the second mega trend is what Ryan Roslansky, who is the CEO of LinkedIn, termed, which I like, which is the great reshuffle. I think there’s real structural change that we are seeing because of what I would describe as two megatrends. We are coming out of this pandemic or living through this pandemic in its various stages. SATYA NADELLA: First of all, it is fantastic to be with you again. Where are we on that journey? What is the near-term future of the workplace look like to you? So, the concept of work, how we collaborate together, how we innovate, is constantly changing as businesses evolve, as technology changes, as employees have different kind of attitudes and empowerments. And there are probably few people who have their finger more on the pulse of what is work and what are the platforms and the approaches that we need to work effectively together than you. This program is about the new world of work. If you’re a subscriber, you can sign up for the newsletter here.ĪDI IGNATIUS: Satya, thank you very much for joining us. Each week, Adi will interview a leader on LinkedIn Live - and then share an inside look at those conversations and solicit questions for future discussions in a newsletter just for HBR subscribers. This interview is the first in a new video series called “The New World of Work,” which will explore how top-tier executives see the future and how their companies are trying to set themselves up for success. HBR editor in chief Adi Ignatius interviewed the Microsoft CEO to discuss what team collaboration will look like going forward, the next generation of workplace technology, the new imperatives of leadership - and whether and when our future workplaces will in fact start to look like the “metaverse” fantasies of science fiction. Few people have more insight than Satya Nadella into how teams collaborate and innovate successfully. ![]()
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